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A Great Question!

It's a question that we went back and sense to me, as well as others whose
forth with for awhile ourselves many opinions I had grown to respect. What we
moons ago. The "how" and "why" of our HAD experienced was IN that little old
conclusions may be of some interest. manual.The task NOW was to do more
Whether or not anyone agrees with them, research and to make these methods come
well at the least you'll fully understand alive. That meant studying as much
the basis for them.The question is material as we could find on this topic,
this:Why does Fairbairn stress the and then understanding it and perfecting
straight thumb in line with the barrel, it.BUT, you may ask, what about the
even for one handed shooting?Years ago "instinct" part. Didn't you KNOW this
when we first began our attempt to sort already? Yes, we did KNOW how
out the mechanics, methods and reasoning many(certainly not all) individuals will
behind this type of shooting we had the react when placed in sudden life and
exact same question! It really is an death emergency situations. The JOB was
excellent question.We need a little to rip this method apart, find any flaws,
history here. When a group of us started find any strengths, and to make it fully
to "experiement" with this method of our own. ONLY then, once we really KNEW
shooting we had all been indoctrinated what the hell we were doing(and talking
and trained in one or both of the about), could we DECIDE if it offered any
prevailing "practical" shooting methods REAL solutions to us. ANYTHING less than
extant. One being the "cutting edge FULLY studying, inculcating and
method" of the time, that owing to Jeff UNDERSTANDING the method would constitute
Cooper and the methods being taught at INTELLECTUAL FRAUD in terms of any real
Gunsite. The other being the fairly incisive and HONEST comparison with any
standard FBI clone known as the other "method".How the hell do you judge
"Practical Pistol Course". Most police something without that mind-set.During
recruit training of this period this period(mid to late 70's) there were
emphasized the PPC tactical course of a growing number of "experts" entering
fire over any other method, including the the field. Cooper first and foremost,
much touted "Weaver". Full sight then names like Taylor, Farnam, Ayoob,
alignment, "positive" grip with a and many others. For the most part, all
two-hand "isoceles", barricade firing "towed" the party line. Weaver was IT.
with both single and double action(most Everything else was outdated, outmoded
departments carried wheel guns) all done and "old" fashioned. Well, at this point
at varying distancesand various battery I started collecting EVERYTHING I could
firing positions. The only time ANYTHING about shooting. Everything. From the
approaching "instinct" shooting was even oldest manuals and books to the most up
mentioed was at the six foot range to date. Magazine upon magazine, and of
distance when passing commentary went course continued ACTUAL training. What I
something like......."Maybe you won't be was constantly learning was really eye
able to get the gun all the way up, opening.Studying McGivern, Hatcher,
so..............."This was the prevailing Roper, Nichols, Weston, Gaylord, Askins,
situation at that time for those Jordan, "old" works by Copper, and so
interested in "combat" or "practical" many other men and other sources like
shooting either by vocation or hobby. To Leatherneck and the Infantry Journal, old
make matters worse, MOST if not all issues of the American Rifleman was
"civilian" instruction STILL was based on astonishing. My research collection has
the old "Olympic" style of competitve NEVER stopped growing. I don't "stop"
target work.Now REMEMBER this was at a learning, but more on that later.The only
time when specially trained units like contemporary voice getting a little play
ESU or SWAT were still in their infancy! in the popular gun journals was Brad
And William Shatner's ONLY claim to fame Steiner. Much of what he wrote reflected
was as Captain Kirk. When cops went on a what I had known to be true based on MY
job they were fully expected to handle experience. There really WAS a gap and a
it. ONLY the most EXTREME situations were need for methods that dealt specifically
responded to by "something" resembling a with CLOSE QUARTERS GUN BATTLES. The only
special tactics unit. At BEST most really close quarters method being
departments had only a semi-organized bantered about at this time was the
squad of "hats and bats", and that was "speed rock". Steiner's contemporary
it. So the street cop responded to EVERY articles were very interesting and he
type of call and was FULLY expected to stirred alot of resentment and
handle whatever emergency arose.So that controversy.I remember one slam made
gamut runs from Bank alarms, to aginst Steiner and John McSweeny by Mas
convenience store robberies, to building, Ayoob. It concerned the use of a mirror
warehouse and residential searches, from to check and adjust firing poistion,
alleyways and stairwells to rooftops and alignment and so forth. This was a method
basements. Sometimes you creep and advocated by MANY "old timers" as a tried
sometimes you run. Sometimes you know and true way of DAILY practice away from
there's a potential threat, sometimes it the range. Easy. Simple. No "brainer".
just leaps out at you. Sometimes there is Everyone has a mirror. Made perfect sense
plenty of light(good and bad), sometimes to me. And it WORKED. Great! Well, Ayoob
just a dim streetlight near an alleyway likened this to "mental" masturbation.
that YOU have to clean out. Sometimes, I'm not really one to mince words, it's
and more often than not, there is NO real usually(not always) better to just speak
light, just dark. And shadows!Search a plainly. I couldn't help but wonder what
warehouse for a suspect and you may get the reaction of men like Paul Weston of
shot from a distance, from behind cover the NYPD(who advocated this mirror
or concealment. Search an apartment training highly) or "Jelly" Bryce would
building or private residence for a have been to that comment. I also
suspect and you may get shot from pondered what Brad Steiner's reaction,
"sneezing" distance. You may see the and perhaps more SO, John McSweeny's
threat and "prepare' yourself, or maybe reaction would have been to Mr. Ayoob had
the threat just SPRINGS out at you. Maybe he made that comment nose to nose instead
the badguy is in front of you, maybe he's of in print. Basically, what Ayoob was
lurking and creeping just there behind saying, thinly veiled as it was, was,
you.Maybe it's a car stop gone bad. Maybe you're a "jerk off".Where were we? Oh
it's a "nut" who approaches YOU while YEA......................................
you're in a patrol unit sipping coffee .......................What to do with
and shooting the shit with your partner. ALL of this information, both new and
Maybe you're off duty.The point is this: "old". Well, logically the thing to do
In the real world ANYTHING can and was to look at the most basic problems
probably WILL happen. As bad as it gets, presented by any situation and BUILD from
is about as BAD as it WILL GET.Now add there.Easy enough. Right? Well, actually
THIS: Will you be wounded, injured, or in no......................................F
someway incapacitated, less than at irst thing we did was to DEFINE the terms
optimum ability. Will you be firing your that we would use. When so and so said
duty weapon, or will you be using your this, made this statement, what did he
"back up" or has the shit degenerated to REALLY mean? When Shooter A talks about
the degree that you have to use your last this to Shooter B are they REALLY
ditch "hide out" piece. I've known understanding the terms being USED. Or is
situations where an officer has HAD to one party ASSUMING he knows what a
grab and use one of the "downed" perps certain phrase or descriptive term means.
weapons, to save his wounded partners Damn, w're back to that logical
life. What POSITION will you be in when foundation jammy again. Let's
all hell breaks loose? Maybe you CAN'T see................I stop some guy on the
run for cover, maybe there is NO cover. street and tell him in NO uncertain terms
You can do everything RIGHT and still that I LOVE his wife, and always will. As
die, and you can do everything WRONG and a matter of fact, I have loved her for
survive. Life's kinda crazy that way.The years. The man may be pretty shocked, he
obvious part of this, at least to an would have a right to be, maybe even take
open-minded and "thinking" individual is a swing at me. But, if we defined what
that it IS impossible to train and/or was really said, well, the situation
prepare for EVERY situation, every changes. The guy's wife is MY sister. And
contingency. Can't BE DONE.What CAN be yes, I love her deeply, always have, and
done is to figure out what method or always will. Before any honest up front
system of training will GIVE YOU the BEST dialogue seeks to edify we should make
all around overall preparation for sure we're on the same page. That was job
survival.The "PPC" wasn't the answer, and 1. As I said anything less is
neither was Copper's "Modern intellectual fraud.So we did a thorough
Pistolcraft". Something was missing.A job of defining the terms we used and
round about way to answer a single what they meant.Now we ruthlessly went
question, huh? Well without understanding about tearing apart everything on both
the genesis or the seed that all of this sides of the hill.What does the REALITY
begins with and the "base" of experience of the street teach us, and how do we
that FORCED certain questions to be asked find REAL useful solutions to those
and answered the whole point will be problems presented.AND, here's the REAL
missed. The "straw man" arguements will catch...............................how
flair up, and the whole "thing" will turn does all of this tie in to the LEAST
into a pile of shit. And NO one will common denominator. In other words what
learn a goddamn thing.The group of men is the MOST basic overall approach to
that formed the core of our "cadre" so to these problems, taking into account first
speak were mostly cops drawn together and foremost the least in ability, skill,
initially by interests in other areas experience and knowledge. If we can begin
than firearms. Most I had met thru my to build on that, then we have something
martial arts training, some were from the really worthwhile.So here are the
"iron" pit(what a shithole, I loved it), "problems":1. Visibility. Perfect to
some we met at competitive "practical" zero.2. Extreme close range sudden
matches. We had at one time or another violence. Unprepared. Reactive. Prepared.
guys from local, state, and federal Active.3. Enagaging adversaries at
agencies. A tremendous amount of varying distances and/or heights/360
experience and the desire to really degrees. Close/medium/long range.
"train" was the bond(not the shaker Effective transition. Active and
joints and sundries). A rare quality for reactive.4. Ability to manuever and
cops in those days.So we weren't fire.5. Ability to effect fire on a
stumbling in the dark here. We had the moving target.6. Ability to fire from
access, time, opportunity and means(most dis-advantage or awkward positions.7.
of us were single and making a pretty Ability to fire from cover and/or
good payday) to really travel, and train. concealment. Two different tactical
And....get in a whole helluva lot of problems.8. Ability to fire with both
range time. There was one point where at hands. Tandem-strong and weak.
any given time I had several 5 gallon Single-strong and weak.9. Ability to fire
pails filled with spent brass in my trunk when vision is impaired.10. Ability to
waiting for their weekly drop off at my transition from weapon to weapon.11.
buddy who was a reloading fanatic. With Emergency reloading and malfunction
no real responsibilty in life you can clearing.12. The MUST DO shot.We did NOT
live PRETTY LARGE(right Boyoo?).Frank address specific tactical problems. This
Behlert(remember him?) still had his old list was designed for the MOST basic
shop on Lehigh Ave. in Union. That was a overall components facing every type of
great hub of activity and a great place "shooter" regardless of "job"
to meet all sorts of interesting specificity. A six three 200lb. police
characters. It was also one of the first tactical officer could face these
places that really took an actice role in "problems" in the same way that a 5 foot
pushing the "practical" shooting matches five 100lb. housewife may have to. Sounds
in the metro area.Now when some street silly? Think about it.How we put together
"cherries" or FNG's get out of the the syllabus-No forced or awkward
academy and hit the streets they clam up positions or manuevers.
tighter than an asshole in a bath house. Everything based to the GREATEST extent
Sometimes it is good to just shut the possible on gross motor skill, natural
fuck up and keep your eyes and ears open. body dynamics, and "instinctive" action
But by the same token, if you don't ask reaction. takes into account next to
you don't learn. So when ever a dicey worst case scenario and works from
situation arose I would always there(worst case being you're already
"debrief"(sometimes that took on a WHOLE dead).The entire system should be as
'nother meaning) myself and sort out what seamless as possible. One component
went "good", what went "bad", what could dovetailing with another. Not just a
have been done better and what could have "grouping" of techniques independent of
hit the fan. If I needed to question one another. As general as possible to
something I did. Still do.Alot of the cover the greatest number of
older cops were really playing the old contingencies. Weak offhand shooting is
"salty dawg". 30 years and a wake up and composed of the EXACT same mechanics as
the papers were in and off to Florida TWO HANDED braced firing. The
they went. Probably to drop dead of heart fundamentals are EASILY retainable and
failure in a year. Life sucks and then apply throughout the entire shooting
you die, or life sucks, you relocate to system. The grip on the draw is the same
Florida and THEN you die. Doesn't matter, grip for firing. The grip when running,
end result the same.Still these guys were climbing, jumping is the same for drawing
a TREMENDOUS source of knowledge. On a and firing. The grip when prone is the
whole RANGE of "police" related subjects. same when kneeling is the same whenusing
Most, if not all of these men were combat braced barricade, is the same when using
vets of WWII or Korea. So when I had a the "pop out" and fire. This is a bad
question I asked. If my screwy facial thing under the stress of real world
expression betrayed my disbelief at the violence?The system? That we have to be
answer, I usually heard the following another long winded thread(if I survive
refrain(if I had a dime......), this one). But for many of you, it won't
"Listen wet nose, that's the square, the be what you think or what you have
real deal, just remember I got more time "pidgeonholed".FINALLY...................
in the shithouse than you have on the ................the GRIP!Okay. First.
road"......followed invariably Re-read all these parts over again.
by......."So just shut the FUCK up and Really put some effort into understanding
learn". Well as things go, I never did what is being said here.Fairbairn
learn to shut the fuck up, but I did admonishes us to extend the thumb along
learn."They teach you what they teach in the "slide release"(for clarification).
the academy 'cause they got Mentions it several times. WE DON'T teach
to".............................."The that grip as part of the basic syllabus.
street has it's own rules, and only the We practiced it alot and some liked it
street really knows what the hell those and some did not. BUT that's NOT the
are". Rule # 1 - CYA. Rule # 2 - Never issue here.The grip as advocated by WEF
EVER forget rule # 1.So where does this is particular to the weapon shown, NOT to
lead us? Well, this attitude between what WEF. Many gunners of the period in many
is "percieved" as real and what really is different manuals and sources advocate
REAL caused us to constantly question, the same grip for THAT weapon. For the
examine, and re-examine everything we .45 ACP. It was almost de rigueur. Did it
were "taught" to do against everything we help some achieve the standards for it
"really" DID.The bulbs really began that WEF set forth, MOST certainly. For
flashing when we got hold of a copy of others it was a far less successful
"Kill or Get Killed" followed by venture. Some improved with practice,
"Shooting to Live". At first we all, others did not.Now we have to find out
myself included, looked at these old why? Colonel Applegate had HIS answer and
pictures, drawings and "dust covered" we had ours(more on that later) BUT still
verbiage as absolutely outdated, "know we wanted to understand why WEF advocated
what I did during the BIG it and what we might have been
ONE..............." bullshit! But "Get missing.First we have to remember that
Tough" had my sincere interest. One of "Shooting to Live" was written in it's
those old timers I mentioned had been a original form(we have the manual) as a
US Navy "landing force" instructor during manual for the SMP. An organized UNIFORM
the "BIG ONE". I had seen him in action police agency. "Shooting to live" is an
for real, unflitered "Lucky Strike" expanded version of the original SMP
hanging out the side if his mouth and manual. Why is that important? Because
wreaking holy havoc on some young "puffy the SMP, like most agencies issued a
chested" bucks. It was a thing of beauty! specific "duty" weapon. A standard
I on the other was "fighting" these guys pistol. That was the .45 ACP. But that
and looked like I was "rode hard and put wasn't all! The .380 ACP was ALSO issued
away wet".Something didn't add up. The and for a VERY pertinent reason. The use
methods my tour sargeant used WERE right of the thumb extended grip advocated for
out of "Get Tough", even how he handled a the .45 ACP had more to do with the
"nightstick" and BOY he did that with DESIGN of the weapon than with anything
relish(remember NO ONE knew what a else. The angle between grip and barrel
camcorder was!). Maybe there was is such that a full "convulsive"(there's
something to this "Farburn" guy. I mean, that term again) grip with thumb wrapped
up to this point "Fairbairn" was a good DOWN will effect the horizontal barrel to
tan we got during "I & I" down at LBI. floor alignment that is so important to
And "Applegate"? Sheeet, that was the ALL forms of accurate shooting. MORE so
entrance to an orchard, right?So then we in the method taught by WEF. The thumb
ACTUALLY started READING these texts. extension helped seat the weapon from
Really trying to keep an open mind. After backstrap to muzzle in a "better" way for
ALL if "Guru" Jeff said it was so, well THAT gun. A full "fisted' grip tended to
damn youngin' IT'S SO!Now here's the drop the muzzle DOWN. Also, WEF had
"bitch" in the whole fairly large hands and a great grip. He
thing............Pretty much EVERY reason also realized this and adjusted
WEF and Colonel Rex GAVE for the validity accordingly. Officer's with smaller hands
of the methods(THEY ARE DIFFERENT BOYS & who could NOT adjust or use the .45 ACP
GIRLS) were exactly what we all knew were were issued the smaller .380 ACP. Now
"missing" from the "practical" shooting notice the line drawing on pg. 19 of STL.
we were doing. The difference in a These drawings were made directly from
nutshell......."How you are SUPPOSSED to still photos. Look at how far the thumb
do it, and how you REALLY do IT".Yes, if is extended in the picture. I have fairly
I have the "drop" on a suspected badman, normal size hands and a fair grip, and my
like on a hinky title 39 stop when YOU thumb doesn't come near to that position.
KNOW the shit is just hanging in front of I am certainly NOT alone in this problem.
that fan READY to go SPLAT all over WEF recignized it too, THAT is why he
everyone, then YES, ALL the "rules" get issued smaller pistols for some
followed. If I had to arrest a suspect on officers.Again, this manual was done
a felony warrany or who was a known "A & before the second world war and done with
D" then yes......ALL the rules got the STANDARD issue .45 ACP or .380 ACP in
followed. In those situations assessing, mind as a UNIFORM piece of ordinance. WEF
finding and moving to real "cover"(as use of the extended thumb index was also
opposed to just concealment) was viable, obvious in his method of firing both the
actually anything else was STUPID. If M1 A1 carbine and the Thompson sub-machin
that was NOT an option then covering the gun. He liked this method.Colonel
skel from a stable picture perfect Applegate had different ideas. His duties
"Weaver" or "isoceles" with positive exposed him to a VAST number of handguns
sight alignment and all things neat and that WOULD be used in combat in varying
tidy was the way to go. ANYTHING else countries. From the Luger to the Walther,
would have been from a Colt revolver to an automatic,
STUPID.BUT...................then there from a Browning to a Mauser. Applegate
were those multitude of OTHER TIMES.SEE sought A SINGLE method of battle firing
there is a HUGE difference between having that was applicable to ANY handgun,
"IT" your way, playing your "game", anywhere in the world. THIS is why
ACTING by your rules and being forced to Colonel Applegate advocated the "point
"REACT" to someone else's "gamebook". You shoulder" locked wrist, convulsive grip
get forced into playing the other guy's method. That system alone would allow
game and you're probably gonna lose. anyone to grab ANY handgun and be able to
Especially when the rules change fire with effect(his words-Man Killing
constantly.So let's answer this "job" Accuracy). Since each design had a
together. Straight up and no bullshit. different angle between handle and
You're working the graveyard tour muzzle, differing weight, balance, muzzle
mid-week. From your experience you figure length, sight aperture and so on he
that this tour on this day is usually devised a singular method to ADAPT to a
pretty quiet. So it's around 3:00 am, you GREAT number of handguns. That is GENIUS!
have made your "beat" rounds, done your So on this point I disagree with WEF's
shift reports, answered a few calls, approach. How about all the other
shitcanned them and now need a little shootists? Like Bill Jordan. Look at his
"resting of the eyes". You coop up. Oh grip, about as tight fisted and
YEA, it's winter time. Snow, ice, and convulsive as you can get. And he is one
it's bone chilling cold out. Just as you of many that took a differing approach
find that "comfortable" position and from what is shown in STL. All I want to
settle in the radio goes bananas. Two do is keep it to the MOST basic FIRST.
seperate confirmed alarms at a warehouse MOST BASIC FIRST. MOST BASIC FIRST! M O S
that has been hit several times before. T B A S I C F I R S T !Was Applegate
OFF to the races you GO!No siren, just completely HAPPY with what he taught
the overheads, a couple of blocks away during WWII. NO, he wasn't. He told us
you go "silent". You make a cursory pass personally that he would have taught
in the unit and spot the probable FULLY sighted fire FIRST, then "point
position of enrty (an open window, in shoulder" if he had to do it again. YEP!
JANUARY). Maybe. Maybe these guys NOTHING is written in stone!There are
followed the "rules" and immediately left other SOLID reasons behind the
a second avenue of escape available to differences between WEF and Applegate, as
them. Maybe you get a back up unit, maybe well as others extant during this time.
you don't. Doesn't matter, you gotta roll But, hell all that's in the past. Who
with punches and you got a JOB to do. The cares, right?Okey dokey. Back to WEF and
warehouse is HUGE, completely dark, the extended thumb. NOW.......try
multi-level with more "nooks and this............even if you like the
crannies" than a Thomas's muffin. And extended thumb for your .45 replace that
it's BEEN months since YOU answered a auto with another auto, large/medium
call here (or maybe never) so the layout small frame. How's the "feel", bet you
is NOT "fresh" in your mind.You approach adjust with each differing piece.Now grab
the window cautiously and realize that a wheel gun. Try it WITH THAT!
the snowy, slushy, muddy ground beneath Hmmmmmmm.....how's that working out? No,
has a distinct set of LARGE boot prints, not the Model 29 S&W, the small frame two
NO, wait, TWO sets of distinct inch......try that. Well I don't see HOW
footprints. Let's see.........okay the that extended thumb grip works AT ALL
window has been jimmied. Pretty secure with a revolver. Not for double action
industrial window. These pry marks were most certainly!SO now what? How about
done by something pretty big and pretty this...........You carry a primary duty
sharp. Keep that in mind.Enough bullshit, weapon that is a large frame auto. Okay.
time to go into the "party".Let's stop You also carry a small frame "snubby" on
for a moment and take stock of our your ankle....the "just in case" gun.
situation:1. NO light, either inside(if And, maybe a Beretta .25 as your "oh
we could even find them) or OUTSIDE. SHIT" gonna be late for dinner piece.
2. At least two potential threats. THREE different guns, three DIFFERENT
3. Unknown area of operation. Little if grips and THREE differing "feels". Or
any idea of how the joint is layed out. look down the firing line at people who
4. At least one perp is armed with are looking to YOU for instruction. All
something big, and sharp. At the LEAST. shapes and sizes, all different in so
5. Have other officers to worry about. many ways, and probably all preferring a
6. Cold as a sonofabitch. Stiff, wearing different handgun. Damn, you HAVE to find
winter uniform, can't move all that well.